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Post by clancey1849 on Jun 17, 2010 8:52:01 GMT -5
Did the Marines ever use blackened metal rank insignia on the collar during the Korean War, or did these come about after the war? I have seen a few sets that don't have the crossed rifles as we currently use, and the stripes on them are thinner than current examples. They are generally identified as being specific to Korea.
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redjoshman
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Post by redjoshman on Jun 21, 2010 16:33:54 GMT -5
Nope, those were to go with the P-1953 Utility Uniform(and later the P-1958 Utility Uniform). They barely missed the war along with the Uniform itself. However, they were used in the 1958 Lebanon Crisis(my latest, time period wise, Marine Corps impression) and the 1962 Crisis in the Dominican Republic.
-Josh
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Post by clancey1849 on Jun 24, 2010 12:48:18 GMT -5
Thanks for that info. I didn't think they made it into service in time for Korea.
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Post by gunnyred on May 24, 2012 14:35:23 GMT -5
That's correct, the crossed rifles didn't come into effect until...i think 63, if I remember correctly. Normally, though, in combat operations (well, in my experience anyway) rank wasn't worn. But, that also depends on unit s.o.p. at the time too.
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Post by m1steelpot on May 24, 2012 18:05:03 GMT -5
The Marines may still have used the stencils on the sleeves as they did in WWII.
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Post by tk7263 on May 26, 2012 19:22:37 GMT -5
My Dad made PFC in 1956 and he painted his PFC chevron on in ink. But he said that all their NCOs were Korean war vets and they had everybody do things the way they did them back in the day.
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redjoshman
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Post by redjoshman on Jun 7, 2012 10:27:07 GMT -5
The Marines, if they were showing their rank on their sleeve, during Korean Conflict still stenciled it on like during the Second World War. Similar to World War II the it was more common to see the sleeves sans insignia than with the rank on the sleeve. However the practice was way more prevalent in Korea than it ever was during World War II.
For the Post-1953 use of stenciled insignia it depends on the unit. For instance the various floating Battalions from the 2nd MarDiv show very little if any use of stenciled insignia during the Lebanon Crisis of 1958. So the use of Stenciled insignia could have been more concentrated in 1st MarDiv or the 3rd MarDiv post-1953.
Like anything else it comes down to getting as specific with your research as possible
-Josh
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Post by gunnyred on Jun 8, 2012 18:30:33 GMT -5
That and unit S.O.P., another thing that's 'confusing' with the stenciled rank, in battlefield conditions, is, what if a Cpl gets a battlefield commission? Some knucklehead civilian newsman gonna call him 'CplLt'? LOL (MASH)...but, i seriously doubt that ever happened. My advice, keep it clean, don't stencil anything. When I was on WestPac, we had our names stenciled on the back of the blouse, about shoulder level and on the seat of the trousers right in the middle above the rear pockets. Course, we were wearing the metal pin rank then too.
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Post by dbaker on Nov 14, 2017 13:49:53 GMT -5
I have been looking for that information all day. Is there a source you can send me so i can look it up myself?
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Post by pop401k on Dec 27, 2017 10:32:55 GMT -5
A guy I worked with, said that enough Marines were so sloppy with painting on their stripes, they decided to develop the "pin on" chevrons.
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