Pictures of my Chi-Com Impression!

[Chicommie]

Comrades in the hobby,
I have a few pictures of my Chinese Communist impression,
as you'll see it's still a 'work in progress', and I don't have
the padded suit ready yet. The Ushanka is not dead on but
it's all I can find at the moment. The uniform is a HKK Nationalist
uniform set with the bottom pockets & patches removed, all cotton Chinese slippers, canvas leg wraps from Ost front, a HKK bandoleer, Japanese bread bag & canteen, and an Arisaka rifle.
I can't find an acceptable Mao cap that's not a modern green color, I may go with the company in France. I'll keep plugging away at this impression!
comrade, Patrick Hubble
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If the photo's don't appear here I'll post them on the Korean war Reenactors Yahoo Group in the photo's section. Here's the address: groups.yahoo.com/group/KoreanWarReenactors/

[pop401k]

I have also posted some pics at the Yahoogroup site... Sorry, but I don't have "photobucket" to post them here.

[Woodard]

Some pics of my Chinese kit, got a digital camera for christmas...


First winter 50-51'





Summer uniform

[btswanfury]

Very cool Bren!

I recently got the Osprey book on the Chinese army from 1937-1949, and there is a really interesting pic of troops recieving instruction.

their backpacks are made of blankets that have been rolled up on both ends towards each other (kind of like a double cinnamon stick), the lashed lengthwise and shoulder straps strung through the whole thing. I'll have to get some webbing and try it out for the event.

[Woodard]

The way I've got mine seems to have been standard up through the 60's. As long as you don't try to put much weight on it it seems to work OK.

On a side note, yesterday I went for a walk in the snow in my Chinese sneakers, they honestly weren't too bad while I was moving, but standing still I started to feel it. Course it wasn't a very long walk, either.

[btswanfury]

Here is my impression for the event (assuming it stays warm, LOL). I didn't have a chance to try on my stuff over my padded clothing, as I was hot and tired. Pictures are courtesy of Kelsey, as are the awesome straw sandals. I know I shouldn't have an SVT, but it's the only rifle i have that hasn't since migrated over to my parents'.

Enjoy!

[lonestarcommie]

Any reason why the SVT-40 would not be correct? I figured any Soviet WWII weapons would be fair game... but I am very new to this, and I haven't been able to find many period photographs of the Chinese in Korea yet

[pop401k]

Soviet weapons didn't show up until basically the 2nd half of the conflict... after the "lend lease" with the Soviets. Even then I can't recall ever seing a pictre of SVT's (many Ppsh's) During the first half, it was mostly Japanese or US weapons given to the nationalists.

[btswanfury]

Yeah, here's the deal.

The Soviets basically built up the North Korean armies based on their model. Ie. it was a dream army, complete with artillery, tanks, self-propelled guns, aircraft, the works.

That army destroyed the ROKs and the UN forces in the summer and fall of 1950.

During the counterattack at Inchon in the fall of 1950 and the race north, the North Korean army was more or less obliterated. When the Chinese attacked in November of 1950, it was the communist army which had just finished fighting the Chinese civil war. As such, they were armed with mostly Japanese weapons, and Chinese copies of German weapons like the K98, etc. They counterattacked and drove the UN back, and then fought the UN armies to a standstill by the fall of 1951.

It wasn't until the war had more or less devolved into its trench phase following the fall of 1951 that the Soviets decided to actually start supplying the Chinese with their own hardware.

There is anecdotal evidence of SVT-40s and SKSs being used in Korea, but I have yet to see pics of any.

Hope that helps!

[lonestarcommie]

Thanks, both those comments helped... Hopefully in the next couple weeks or so I will post images of my growing impression...

[kampfer]

Nice job Comrades.
The canteen shown in your photos is questionable.
Reference to this comrade on how to tie your backpack.
i154.photobucket.com/albums/s252/BrenWoodard/PVA%20figure/pva4.jpg
Grass shoes maybe are no good in cold Korea...It is a south China thing.
Never seen and SVT-40 in any Chinese Propaganda movies or posters.
I love to see a photo of SVT-40 in Chinese soldier's hand from any period.

[btswanfury]

The canteen is Russian. It was before I acquired a Japanese one to use.

The backpack is packed according to photos I've seen of Nationalist forces on campaign in China is 1946. As usual, I suspect there are more than one ways of doing it.

As for the straw slippers, I bought them in Korea when I was over there. I wouldn't wear them in the cold or anything, but at least I know that as of last year some of the monks were still wearing them.

[kampfer]

What period of that Russian canteen is from?
It looks very much like PLA canteen in 60's.
There are more than one way to tie the pack,

[kampfer]

Jan 21, 2010 0:40:53 GMT -5 btswanfury said:

Actually, you're right. It's a PAVN canteen I got for Vietnam. My bad!

Also, I have a K98 for early war stuff.

Yeah, I'm sure that the backpacks were wrapped all kinds of ways. The one I saw in pictures of the Civil War was the way I did it.

Thanks for the compliments!

However the most common way I seen is the one I referenced in photo, & I feel it is the best for me.
www.pbase.com/the_kampfer/image/101522778
K98k is correct as Nationalist received lots surplus fire arms after WWII ended.

[btswanfury]

Yeah, though there is nothing wrong with Russian weapons and to a certain extent field gear for the North Koreans, as well as the Chinese in the later part of the war. Especially if you consider the number of M91/30s, DP-28s, PPSH-41s and PPS-43s you see them carrying.

[kampfer]

Speaking of PPSh-41, there will be a Airsoft PPSh in the market soon.
www.hexagonproduction.com/
And I am building a Dummy PPS-43 out from a part kit.